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« on: October 06, 2009, 04:53:52 PM »

This award winning photo taken by a remote controlled camera.  The lens was destroyed. 



The story is here:
http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4-Heavy_DSP-23_camera.html
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2009, 05:49:35 PM »

I saw that story a few days ago. Amazing photograph!
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2009, 07:17:44 PM »

The Delta IV is my favorite rocket.  Well it's a toss up between Delta IV and the R-7, but I admire each for totally different reasons.
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2009, 08:00:04 PM »

Young Ben Cooper there- does some amazing work!  I keep an 8x10 of that pic over my desk at work. 
Almost looks like a cover painting from a '50's-vintage SF 'pulp' magazine.
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2009, 09:11:33 PM »

I'd love to find a higher res version of the picture to make a poster.  I hsould ask Ben I guess and pay him if I do that.

I've been looking for a good photo of a LOX/LH2 engine to illustrate my section about Tsiolkovsky.  He did the first theoretical study, but his calculated exhaust velocity was too high, because he didn't take dissociation into account.

I read a recent paper on LOX/LH2 combustion, claiming there were 27 reversable chemical reactions you had to take into account to calculate accurately -- H2, O2, HO, H2O, H2O2, OH-, and other molecular and atomic species are present in the combustion chamber  -- and they weren't taking account of ionization which must be relevant too.  Sigh...nothing is ever simple.

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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2009, 11:36:26 AM »

Don,
Take a look at some of the pics here: http://spaceflightnow.com/delta/d337/launch/
I have a pic similar to the one above but from the opposite angle but it is only 31kb.

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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2009, 02:15:08 PM »

Good photos!
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2010, 03:34:41 PM »

  He did the first theoretical study, but his calculated exhaust velocity was too high, because he didn't take dissociation into account.

I read a recent paper on LOX/LH2 combustion, claiming there were 27 reversable chemical reactions you had to take into account to calculate accurately -- H2, O2, HO, H2O, H2O2, OH-, and other molecular and atomic species are present in the combustion chamber  -- and they weren't taking account of ionization which must be relevant too.  Sigh...nothing is ever simple.



Don, I failed to take this in to account when I assumed that a two to one molar ratio was optimum for exhaust velocity.  The interesting thing is that adding more Hydrogen does not lower the Temperature as much as one would expect, if all reactions went to compleation.  As a result the performance penalty in lowering the temperature, is (to a point) out weighed by the performance enhancement of lowering the molecular weight of the exhaust.
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